A Wall Street Journal analysis of thousands of podcast transcripts shows the conservative conversation on Epstein has swelled in recent weeks.

The Trump administration’s efforts to allay concerns about its handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files by pushing for more information have been suspect, at best. The moves seem to be geared more toward creating the appearance of action than producing anything that would amount to the extensive transparency it promised.

The Trump administration is grappling to contain the Epstein story. Convicted Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is asking the Supreme Court to hear her criminal appeal. NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard, NBC News Senior Executive Editor on National Security for David Rohde and PBS NewsHour co-anchor Geoff Bennett join Ana Cabrera to discuss more.